Interesting “arguments” against incest

Someone questioned on my YouTube channel why I made such a romantic video about James and Zilpha from Taboo FX/BBC. And she gave totally valid arguments… Here’s what she said (translated from Spanish):

“Why did you put so much romanticism to this video with that song? They are blood siblings that sleep with each other. The show is great but we have to call a spade a spade. Let’s not make incest something romantic when it’s not. […]”

“[..] We have to be intelligent here. What’s common nowadays isn’t normal, let’s not send the wrong message here because it could be harmful.”

“[…] What I and many others find wrong is that two blood-related siblings have sex, we know that it’s not right, I personally know a case of incest and it has wrecked the family.”

“[…] I’ve talked to a [gay] friend and he agrees with me, he’s sensible and more intelligent than many heterosexual people who think that this is modernity and progress when in reality it’s a shameful step backwards. […]”

Just… LMAO.

Consanguineous ships

Posting this info here for reference.

Some of the most popular non-canon consanguineous ships on TV seem to be:

  • Sam/Dean – Supernatural
  • Stefan/Damon – The Vampire Diaries
  • Sherlock/Mycroft – BBC Sherlock
  • Harry Potter (several different ships)

And the most popular canon ship is obviously Jaime/Cersei from Game of Thrones.

Some TV shows with at least “not-that-bad” portrayals of consanguinamory are:

  • Taboo
  • Game of Thrones
  • The Borgias
  • Another Period
  • Flesh and Bone
  • Rome
  • Hollyoaks
  • Emmerdale
  • Brookside
  • Bates Motel
  • Hemlock Grove
  • Banshee
  • Boardwalk Empire
  • The White Queen

Finally, there’s this Wiki page where many incestuous relationships in the media are covered.

We are being censored

So I posted this on reddit r/activism and a similar post on a polyamory forum:

Hi there guys. I’d like to share with you people our community: full marriage equality; we support ALL kinds of consensual relationships, that includes poly relationships and their right to (multiple persons) marriage as well as incest — only ADULT CONSENSUAL INCEST. We ALL deserve equal rights.

In case any of you want to help our cause, please take a look at our blogs, join our facebook group(s) and forums, and do not hesitate to contact me with any concerns or doubts or questions! We needs LOTS of people if we want any change happening at all. We have to put a STOP on discrimination, not only against LGBT+ people but against poly people and consang people as well who are two very misunderstood and frowned upon groups and still ILLEGAL in many countries. Thanks in advance.

And please don’t worry about not knowing how you can help or how you can contribute to advance our cause. You don’t need to be a writer or blogger or have any special skills. All we need are supportive, open-minded people and there are LOTS of small ways in which you can help.

And both threads have been DELETED by the moderators. On reddit I have actually been banned from the activism subreddit. No explanations in both cases. Same thing happened when I tried to discuss incest on a few weeks ago. We are being censored, guys. Incest is still such a taboo in 2017 that we can’t even talk about it openly. This is wrong on so many levels that I don’t even know where to begin. Something needs to be done about censorship ASAP.

Recruiting people

I will be recruiting people for the following days (at least I’ll try).

Mainly people who I know for sure are supportive of consanguineous relationships. And there are lots of incest shipping on Tumblr, AO3,,, YouTube and the like. It’d be great if you guys could try doing some recruiting as well, inviting people to our community (FB, blogs, KS forums…). Especially if someone is (or can get) in contact with a professional writer who has included (positive) incestuous relationships in their stories. Important/rich/famous people could help our cause greatly, I believe.

I will let you guys know how it’s going.

We are NOT powerless


The way things are in society, the veil secrecy we must live under, the court cases we see happening, the way our people seem to be attacked from almost every angle… all of these things make it appear that we’re a weak and defenceless minority and that we’re powerless to do anything about it. It’s easy to see why so many people think and feel this way, but it’s also just not true. Our apparent powerlessness is nothing more than an illusion based upon and sustained by fear.

Now don’t get me wrong, I would never recommend we en-masse come out to the public, not in the current climate anyway. However there are many things that people can do, and in fact should be doing to advance our cause:

  • Sharing links to our articles
  • Directing people from other sites (like Reddit and places like that if you suspect somebody is…

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